This is a Long post, didn't want to lj-cut it.
Got up at something like 1015,
My liking for wireless devices increased after reading this very nice comment from
louiswu. I've decided that I'm making a post sometime in the future on LJ with a wireless keyboard, while I'm busy with someone else ;)
In other news, I had a junior from college come home & this was the convo we had :
[Bell rings, I open the door...]
Me: Hey
She: My mom knows your mom... [Note to Self : Learn how to start a convo]
Me: Come in please. [She enters with her mom]
She: I'm in 6th IS, I need the code for a File Structures project I'm doing [insert project name here].
Me: What's your name? [She gives me her name]
Me: I'm in CS, I never did FS projects.
She: Oh. [Looks away somewhere, like I just disappeared]
[Our Moms are having a small convo..]
She: Oh, I have a few floppies with the code, I'll get them, can you debug them for me? [ hahahaha. Yeah right.]
Me: I have an exam coming up on the 5th, so I can't. [Note to Self : NEVER help her]
She: Oh. [Looks away somewhere, like I just disappeared, again. I must be getting better than Houdini]
She: Do you know anyone else who'll have code? [Of course. Like our sole purpose is to debug/pass-on flicked code]
Me: Yeah, everyone's in the 8th sem, & we all have exams going on.
By then, they realised they're not getting anywhere with it, & left...prolly looking for someone else to get code from. BTW this was the same person who'd about 2 months earlier buggedrattle_snake for projects & ended up getting advice on "how to do your OWN project". Seems all the advice was worth nothing ;) Thank god she's not studying to be Doctor. Phew!!!!
Lastly, there are some very spineless people on Planet Earth. When will people learn to fight for their rights??? Makes me wish that I had the power to carry out what the FOTD suggested : /earth is 98% full ... please delete anyone you can. I'd have gladly deleted the ones who know what's happening to them isn't right, but don't have the balls to stand up & say so. I wonder how such people will survive in the real world? Keep sucking their oppressors to keep them happy seems the only way out.
Got up at something like 1015,
emerge was still doing stuff, so I was playing around with irssi in the meanwhile. Then all of a sudden I did realise that my keyboard was still sucky, so decided to fix that up. A complete cleanup took me about 2 & half hours, after which my keyboard is as good as new, wonderfully clean to touch & the keys feel energized ;)My liking for wireless devices increased after reading this very nice comment from
louiswu. I've decided that I'm making a post sometime in the future on LJ with a wireless keyboard, while I'm busy with someone else ;)In other news, I had a junior from college come home & this was the convo we had :
[Bell rings, I open the door...]
Me: Hey
She: My mom knows your mom... [Note to Self : Learn how to start a convo]
Me: Come in please. [She enters with her mom]
She: I'm in 6th IS, I need the code for a File Structures project I'm doing [insert project name here].
Me: What's your name? [She gives me her name]
Me: I'm in CS, I never did FS projects.
She: Oh. [Looks away somewhere, like I just disappeared]
[Our Moms are having a small convo..]
She: Oh, I have a few floppies with the code, I'll get them, can you debug them for me? [ hahahaha. Yeah right.]
Me: I have an exam coming up on the 5th, so I can't. [Note to Self : NEVER help her]
She: Oh. [Looks away somewhere, like I just disappeared, again. I must be getting better than Houdini]
She: Do you know anyone else who'll have code? [Of course. Like our sole purpose is to debug/pass-on flicked code]
Me: Yeah, everyone's in the 8th sem, & we all have exams going on.
By then, they realised they're not getting anywhere with it, & left...prolly looking for someone else to get code from. BTW this was the same person who'd about 2 months earlier bugged
rattle_snake for projects & ended up getting advice on "how to do your OWN project". Seems all the advice was worth nothing ;) Thank god she's not studying to be Doctor. Phew!!!!Lastly, there are some very spineless people on Planet Earth. When will people learn to fight for their rights??? Makes me wish that I had the power to carry out what the FOTD suggested : /earth is 98% full ... please delete anyone you can. I'd have gladly deleted the ones who know what's happening to them isn't right, but don't have the balls to stand up & say so. I wonder how such people will survive in the real world? Keep sucking their oppressors to keep them happy seems the only way out.
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After all, it's not like you have any obligation to keep from offending her, is there?
So it's not a big deal that she's trying to cheat. She's trying to cheat so damn unintelligently, it ceases to be funny if you really think about it.
Here's something interesting - there's a fairly smart (as in knows to code) guy in 1st year that does projects for our 3rd year students. The frustrating part is that if I'd thought of this before, I'd be rich by now!
Turned out I was the only guy to do an original project ! Although, it did mean I am *reinventing then wheel*. NM I am happy that I did it ! :)
-nerdy
PS: This is the only opportunity I got to do a project ! :-|
Geez. Bang on target. I wouldn't have classified her so perfectly lol
[snip]...and ask "So, what? You just looking to cheat, or what?"
I know she is. As
After all, it's not like you have any obligation to keep from offending her, is there?
Of course not, but talking to wall doesn't help does it? That's why I decided not too. And & I wanted to get rid of her ASAP. The more time she was around, the harder it was to keep my cool lol.
lol yeah. Where would we be without them???
And abt the spineless ppl, just forget it. They dont even know, they dont have a spine.
a) She's not Aiswarya Rai.
b) I don't have Oracle for Linux :D
c) Didn't want to reboot.
In that order.
:)
lecturer: what is your project name?
dude: haven't yet decided.
lecturer: it's already a month since we have informed you about projects.
dude: well, i'm still thinking...
lecturer: what do you mean you're still thinking?
dude (losing cool): ok. i haven't yet found any source code. when i do find some, i'll give you the project name.
this went on with most of the groups, so when our turn came to give the project name,
lecturer: what is your project?
me: secure linux instant messenger
lecturer: where did you get it from?
me: what 'where did you get it from?'. nowhere. i'm yet to code it.
lecturer: you mean you are sitting down and writing code?
me: well, yes.
lecturer: whatever it is. you should submit projects before 3rd internals...
this is the sad reality. there are people who have project repositories. all you need to do is ask them. they'll have something like 10-15 projects from each type. i.e, 10 fs projects, 8 dbms projects, and so on. all you need to do is give them a floppy and they'll be so happy and fulfilled to give you the code. it feels sickly.
but who is to blame? through the years in b.e, they have always been given lab manuals. they haven't typed a single line of code. so much so that during exams, they call the external and tell 'sir, error in compiler', when the error is: 'missing ; before line 23'. so obviously when things are in such a bad shape, who'll expect them to sit and code in the later semesters?
it's the system which is to blame. it's the system that discourages programming. and no one to encourage programming. what's the whole point in a lab exam when you know that you'll get 2 our of 15 questions? when all you got to do is find the smallest working program for each question, sit for 30 minutes, memorise it, write it on paper 5 times so that it gets into the head and attend the exam. it's a dumb, stupid way of churning out a lakh "software engineers" a year.
I'm very ashamed that this is happening in our country, which is really full of brilliant minds. And I'm in a way proud that I wasn't a part of this system. I know very intelligent people who pursued CS, and by the end of 4 years, they had no interest in computers. Good for many of them though, they're doing better things in life, but I just think how much they could have achieved (for society, more than for themselves) had they been through a better education system and given the right opportunities.
Thoughts.
a question: who are better at programming skills? the ones who pass out of institutes such as niit, aptech and the like, or those who pass out of engineering colleges?
It just depends on your aptitude and your level of interest. From what I understand, software engineering grads are supposed to have good knowledge of CS and software engineering. Any other engineering field, it's good logic and reasoning (and maths!) skills that help in programming. On the other hand, there's a problem with knowing too many details--it may come in the way of clear thinking. One may have no clue of how an operating system works, for instance, and be a genius at object-oriented analysis and design.
Also, having sk1llz :) is one thing, and putting them to best use is another. Miguel de Icaza would have been doing some odd job at Microsoft now, if it weren't for some imigration issues with H1-B. Look, what he's doing now!
thats what we are doing,god help us.
no i guess i should help myself.
i think its up to us whether we want to learn the subject or not.lecturers are a big waste in our college,they dont help us in anyway.
In our 2nd sem when we had C for the first time,
when we asked them doubts,they asked us to buy our manuals and mug them up.
we did that,even now we do that with C++.
no body is bothered,all they want is marks in their vtu exams,so they go to tutions,write that shit in the exam.