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I don't know if this is a problem only with Indians...something tells me that this exists in some form or the other all over the world.

So much of the things taught in schools & colleges (professional as well) is just spoon-fed. Open your mouth, shove the stuff in & be done with it. Even Engineering was a set of standard questions in the end, we all used to do some last minute studying, predicting what the most probable questions would be & go take the exam. Nothing is actually wrong with that if you have some practical knowledge to back it up.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be any of that around. What the spoon-feeding is doing is killing any practical thinking. X sees a problem, X won't go & solve it, X will go and ask for a solution. Again, nothing wrong in learning that way, but what happens is X falls into that cycle. Keep asking. Every single time something is wrong, ask. Minor/Major ask. X can't add 2+2, ask. And pointing towards the solution doesn't seem to work either. Saying "X, look this how a similar problem was solved or 1+1=2" doesn't work. That's because all along X has been given problem & solution. Is the system to be blamed? Or the thousands of Xes who exist today? Then what about the non-Xes who've come through the same system? And how do the Xes survive???

I'll be frank & to the point. Most of my classmates & juniors in college would fit perfectly into the profile of X. One of them reinforced that yesterday. I'm no expert on anything but then unless you try to figure out a solution to an issue before asking for help, no amount of hand-holding is going to help.

I'm not saying don't ask for help. I'm saying try hard. Try for 2 days or a week. By that time you'll have found the solution. If not I'll be glad to help.


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Oct. 8th, 2004 01:09 am (UTC)
The world is full of Xes. They shine in school (and sometimes, in college). You can spot them easily: they would have mugged up everything so well that they can tell you the page number of a particular math problem. Their sweet dream is rudely interrupted when they enter the real world (or take a real exam, like an IIT JEE). I'd blame the system: it encourages the spoon-feeding mentality. Like it or not, they can succeed in the SSLC(X std.) and PUC (pre-univ./12th std.) exams by adopting this approach. Unfortunately, the damage is done by the time they enter graduate school. This problem is less endemic in the liberal arts (thank god!).
Oct. 8th, 2004 01:23 am (UTC)
they can succeed in the SSLC(X std.) and PUC (pre-univ./12th std.) exams by adopting this approach

& they use it thru Engg as well....
Oct. 8th, 2004 05:24 am (UTC)
or take a real exam, like an IIT JEE

Not any more. The business of cracking JEE has become institutionalized as well. Know of enough and more people, on both sides of the fence.

It is very easy to blame the system sometimes. Sure, it is at fault. But not entirely. People need to learn to take initiative. Sitting back and conveniently blaming it all on a third party is gratifying for a short while. In the end, no one wins.
Oct. 8th, 2004 09:44 am (UTC)
Oct. 8th, 2004 08:02 am (UTC)
Does that make them X-men ? No ?
Now I have to ask you a question that I planned to investigate but with your recent post :) : you firefox nut you - The new RSS bookmarks feature , is there anyway I can tell it how often to fetch RSS content from a site?
For I find esp with slashdot my bookmark seems to be a few headlines behind the actual page.
Oct. 8th, 2004 10:28 am (UTC)
Firefox isn't a RSS Feed Reader :D So use a real feed reader & set time intervals :)
Oct. 9th, 2004 06:09 am (UTC)
imo it's not an issue with firefox. i had the same issue while using thunderbird to read feeds. the slashdot feed had a small delay compared to the website...
Oct. 8th, 2004 10:50 am (UTC)
It's no wonder that no one thinks out of the box. Independent thinking seems to be lacking. I confess to have committed the crime many times myself. I think X should learn to grow.. that is what education is all about...
Oct. 9th, 2004 07:48 pm (UTC)
But where to get that "EDUCATION", the formal education stops at telling when wars and battles were fought...
Oct. 9th, 2004 08:25 pm (UTC)
a) The education that tells you when wars & battles were fought isn't education at all unless you were following the CBSE/ICSE syllabus. Why? Because those two promote some out of the box thinking to an extent. The others don't even try.

b) School is fine. People can afford to be ignorant in school. People can't do that in real life/career. If they continue to do, they'll learn the hard way.

c) That's why you have a head. To use it to get "that EDUCATION". Use it.
Oct. 9th, 2004 10:01 pm (UTC)
As hard as this may seem to believe - you don't need people to tell you how to think for yourself. You can learn without people having to shove knowledge down your throat.

In lots of things it helps to have people who can guide you towards learning. That's not how it happens anywhere, though (the only places it's done right are reare enough exceptions that they can easily be marginalised in this consideration). I've seen what the classes you attend look like. You expect "education" (again...no caps at all) from the imps that come and cast pearls from a slightly elevated positions (all the better to concuss you with, my dear). And when you don't get it, you throw your hands up in disgust and go ... "Man, we're so screwed. Not one good lecturer. Waaah!"

And the worst part is that when you do get a good teacher (note, not lecturer), it makes no difference at all. You're still in the same mode as you were with the other moronic "lectureres". Let's be charitable and blame it on atrophy. Or let's not.

Wake up. Stop crying, stop whining. Act. Do.

[Disclaimer: The "you"s are meant to be generic. Don't spaz out.]
Oct. 9th, 2004 10:02 pm (UTC)
Oct. 9th, 2004 10:04 pm (UTC)
You mean this?????
Oct. 9th, 2004 10:06 pm (UTC)

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